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Cesareans more likely at for-profit hospitals
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Permalink Reply by GreenLantern on -
doctors can't force you to have a c-section.
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Permalink Reply by mcglory13 on -
Yes, they can. Hi (waves my hand). Nice to meet you. Like many women, I'm a woman who was forced to have a c-section. It probably ended up ok, but nobody asked me. They told me. Oh, did you hear about the woman where CPS took away her baby because she resisted the c-section and wouldn't sign the pre-consent form? This was before a section was even medically indicated. They decided it was evidence that her mental illness (on her records) was too strong to allow her to successfully parent. After three plus years, she finally got her baby back when the court reversed the termination of her parental rights.
Doctors force women every day to have c-sections.
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Permalink Reply by ks on -
In principle, no. But in practice, it happens all the damn time.
GreenLantern said:doctors can't force you to have a c-section.
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Permalink Reply by Mamawho on
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My husband admitted me to the hospital (really, that was his job). Had he not, we probably would not have noticed that one form in the pre-admit paperwork done weeks before the due date is the authorization for a host of interventions, including a c-section. A few nurses tried to tell me that I had to sign all the forms, otherwise I'd be AMA. Again, my husband worked in admissions, so he knew better, so they kept trying to run him off and coerce me into authorizing procedures that weren't even on the horizon. The nurse manager of the emergency room, a formidable woman and the wife of the hospital commander, came up to see me and assured me that I didn't have to sign diddly.
A c-section would have been a bad time to learn about my connective tissue disorder and mitral valve prolapse.
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Permalink Reply by mightyninjamom on -
If you have a trend that shows that for-profit hospitals are allowing far more C-sections than a non-profit, you need to look at everything behind it. Sure, there may not be any 'force' involved, but do you really need force with a woman who is in the middle of her first labor, scared out of her wits and most likely in pain? Probably not. Labor is an incredibly vulnerable time for a woman.
Also, by advocating a c-section to a woman who may not necessarily need it, you are creating a future consumer since many doctors and hospitals will not perform VBAC's.
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Permalink Reply by DLBK on -
Doctors and hospitals do force women to have C-sections. After 3 hrs of pushing my own OB told me that it was time for a C-section, because 3 hrs is all one is "allowed" to push for. I asked for a few more minutes and an adjustment of the epidural and thankfully the doctor was good (and agreed with me) and my son came out.
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Permalink Reply by DLBK on
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GL, you seem to have a lot of very rigid beliefs...what are they based on? Just curious. You're obviously free to have whatever opinions you want.
GreenLantern said:doctors can't force you to have a c-section.
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Permalink Reply by GreenLantern on
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My wife was never forced into a C-Section. I have friends that work in medicine. They aren't supposed to force you to do anything you don't want, but I guess they can and they get away with it. Threatening CPS on someone is a huge deal, and I bet that would get anyone to do just about anything the hospital wanted.
Public hospitals are aweful....well, at least the one I had experience with. Our second son was born at one. We were surrounded by women who were demanding that they be allowed to go have a smoke while they were in labor. The nurses were loud and rude. The doctors were rude. Hardly anyone spoke english, so it was difficult to communicate with them.
I guess if you don't want to potentially be forced into a c-section, don't go to a hospital.
DLBK said:GL, you seem to have a lot of very rigid beliefs...what are they based on? Just curious. You're obviously free to have whatever opinions you want.
GreenLantern said:doctors can't force you to have a c-section.
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Permalink Reply by wookie on -
Doctors opinions tend to have higher "weight" than patients. Especially patients who are already in extreme pain and are (a) not objective and (b) not formally educated/experienced about their own situation.
Which is why insurance companies trust the word of doctors over patients. Which is why hospitals accept the doctors word over the patients, etc.
But because doctors have this much power compared to the patient, really, if you don't trust your doctor (and I had 2 I did and 1 I didn't) then yes, it would be very similar to coercion.
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Permalink Reply by mcglory13 on
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"I guess if you don't want to potentially be forced into a c-section, don't go to a hospital."
You do know that in many places homebirths and midwives are illegal, right? It's literally illegal to go anywhere to have a baby but the hospital.
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Permalink Reply by wookie on
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Well I guess you could just stop having babies. ;-)
mcglory13 said:"I guess if you don't want to potentially be forced into a c-section, don't go to a hospital."
You do know that in many places homebirths and midwives are illegal, right? It's literally illegal to go anywhere to have a baby but the hospital.
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Permalink Reply by SweetJudyB on -
Not to take this thread in the wrong direction, but when I told my mom we weren't going to circumcise our son, she said she always thought it was just an add on procedure for the doctors to make money on.
C-sections are necessary in certain cases, and are probably performed in too many cases when it is not necessary. I would also imagine it is the doctor and the hospital covering their a$$ and going the "safer" route if there's a potential problem with delivery.
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